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  The Changeup
        The Changeup sits down with leaders, innovators, and entrepreneurs to learn about doing a big career switch from being a high-rising employee at a larger company to starting your own thing. It's about the excitement of taking risks, following your passion, and building something new.
      
      
    The Changeup
Rob Smith, CEO and Founder of Phluid
        
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        Keith Hernandez
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          Season 2
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          Episode 33
      
      Phluid launched initially as a physical and online store that makes gender-free, non-binary apparel and accessories. It has grown into a movement committed to challenging the dated practices that inhibit freedom and self-expression.
We talk about building a community by being a listener and always learning, creating a place where people can freely express themselves and how he bucked the “don’t quit your job after your first burning man” advice and created Phluid.